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Will the holy carved dragons be the new inzektor and windups?

Post  draco595 on 2012-01-19, 22:12

Will these new monsters be the new inzektor and wind-ups of the game(its sad because if I remember correctly inzektors were just released)and in case anybody is wondering why I am asking well its because I just made a holy carved deck it has won 7 games and has yet to lose it even beat wind-ups WIND-UPS.
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Post  Galkin on 2012-01-19, 22:45

Holy marked dragons are new, so probably no one is expecting them; no one knows your strategy so they don't know what to do. It makes the deck look more powerful than it really is. Although, I'm not saying they are bad...for the moment.

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Post  Dart on 2012-01-20, 00:07

They seems to be a little bit complex to use, I don't think they have the potential to be a top tier deck which can rival with Inzektor and Wind-Ups, specially since they work with normal monsters, but who knows... let's wait for them to develop. Maybe with Trade-In and a few other cards, they can be interesting, what I like is that a few effects don't destroy your opponent cards but sent or banish them, which is good to bypass some destruction protection effects; also, it seems that with the ideal set up, they can be pretty damaging with the tribute effects.

I was waiting for those Holy Dragons, so I will be one of those who will test them.
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Post  KinRyuTen on 2012-01-21, 12:53

The Hieroglyph (Holy Carved) Seal of the God Dragon card is a lv8 Normal monster, and with Alexandrite and BEWD, this deck has a very good chance to bring out its archetype Xyz monsters and even through their own effects to special summon any dragon-type normal monsters, they can summon powerless BEWDs and use it in conjunction with Hieroglyph Seal of the God Dragon can be used to get out Thunder-End Dragon. These two and Galaxy Eyes and be used to make Neo-Galaxy Eyes.

Tier 1 maybe not, but definitely a good deck.
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Post  MrJokster on 2012-01-21, 13:21

I've dueled 2 different Holy Carved decks so far and I currently think that they are what the Inzektors should have been. They get effects off of each other and recycle but not so much that they're a new card set that's immediately broken which is my, and I think a lot of peoples, beef with the Inzektors. They also don't seem to have as many Synchros and XYZs that mix well in comparison so that also helps level the playing field.
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2012-01-21, 13:24

This suffers side deck syndrome, Light Imprissioning Mirror is a huge hassle, Mask of Restrict as well hits them hard. But we'll see how it turns out, I think they have potential.
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Post  zekana on 2012-01-21, 13:28

the achetype itself I see being a fun deck to use, though not top tier. if anything, it's the xyz's that come from the archetype that could make dragons dangerous.
if you can manage to get the Rank 6 out, you could use that to get a red-eyes from your deck to the field, then start swarming. there's potential in it, but i'll have to wait and see if people can take advantage of it or not, since lightpulser dragon is the only level 6 dragon really seeing any play.
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Post  S.S.A. on 2012-01-21, 15:12

theyre fun, and they have potential to win games and even matches in high quality play, but theyre no inzektors or wind ups, inzekts are just to broke and holy carved minuses to hard
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Post  MK_ultra on 2012-01-21, 15:15

holy carved will be a good competitive deck but they arent as bad as inzektor or wind up
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Post  3E-hero neos on 2012-01-21, 18:03

Cool archetype but:
Do shenanigans, waste your hand without Rejuvenation.
Small hand.
Dark Hole.
RIP.

If you don't get Rejuvenation in time then this deck dies super fast, too few protection once everything is out. Just like Laval.
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Post  Rockmeteor on 2012-01-22, 22:50

It has quite potential, they have combos and are preety fast, but i agree about the dark hole thing 3E-hero neos and Badass_Bunny comment.
There is a new trap coming for them and i hope its effect negates other effects, because i like them and defense is their weakness.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hieroglyph_Seal_of_Reflection
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Post  S.S.A. on 2012-01-22, 22:52

they also need a lvl 6 normal mosnter
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Post  Rockmeteor on 2012-01-22, 23:01

S.S.A. wrote:they also need a lvl 6 normal mosnter

I think one soon will be relased once they have one rank6 xyz and in the marker of gathering there is a sphere with green details, while the current has red.
Or this is a spoiler or its a strange magic happening on the artwork.
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Post  Lovelace on 2012-01-22, 23:12

3E-hero neos wrote:Cool archetype but:
Do shenanigans, waste your hand without Rejuvenation.
Small hand.
Dark Hole.
RIP.

If you don't get Rejuvenation in time then this deck dies super fast, too few protection once everything is out. Just like Laval.

Starlight Road: problem officer?
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Post  S.S.A. on 2012-01-22, 23:18

fair enough, its just much more difficult to summon the rank six now b/c the 4 star when tribed wont summon luster dragon
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Post  Lovelace on 2012-01-22, 23:20

i dont even use the rank 6 in my stun build. (ya, im a stunner)
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Post  S.S.A. on 2012-01-22, 23:21

i dont use it in my synch build either, but i do want to make a build to use it
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Post  Miror B. on 2012-01-23, 00:04

S.S.A. wrote:fair enough, its just much more difficult to summon the rank six now b/c the 4 star when tribed wont summon luster dragon

Which is why my build doesn't use Geb.

I pretty much use the lvl 6s, lvl 5 Normal Summoner, 1 Isis, 1 lvl 5 and 1 lvl 6 vanilla and then techs and spells/traps. Fun to cripple your opponent with Koa'ki Meiru Drago then explode next turn.
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Post  HarleyThomas on 2012-01-23, 17:50

Dragon Capture Jar making a comeback!

...Right?
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2012-01-23, 17:57

S.S.A. wrote:they also need a lvl 6 normal mosnter

Holy Mark Of The Seal Dragon is GAOV - JP02

That means GAOV - JP01 is normal monster as well, now what other Archytpe could get normal monster support?
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Post  Lovelace on 2012-01-23, 18:13

Badass_Bunny wrote:
S.S.A. wrote:they also need a lvl 6 normal mosnter

Holy Mark Of The Seal Dragon is GAOV - JP02

That means GAOV - JP01 is normal monster as well, now what other Archytpe could get normal monster support?

Evols.
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Post  kangtuji on 2012-01-23, 20:40

Anything with rabbit
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Post  Miror B. on 2012-01-23, 21:49

HarleyThomas wrote:Dragon Capture Jar making a comeback!

...Right?

Probably not since they'll just Xyz into a non-dragon.
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Post  LittleEagle on 2012-01-23, 22:08

I don't think so. Dragons have always been over-hyped, while sadly never making it past tier 1.5, tier 2 normally. I've looked at the archetype and I have to say...it's just another way to swarm big dragons. :/

Hopeless/Disaster needs to come back.
InterPlanetaryPurplyThorny Dragon <3
Darkflare Dragon <3
Lightpulsar Dragon sucks...
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Post  3E-hero neos on 2012-01-24, 12:16

LittleEagle wrote:I don't think so. Dragons have always been over-hyped, while sadly never making it past tier 1.5, tier 2 normally. I've looked at the archetype and I have to say...it's just another way to swarm big dragons. :/

Hopeless/Disaster needs to come back.
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Lightpulsar Dragon sucks...

LPD doesn't suck.... it can miss timing but it's extremely good.

I mean, opponent kills LPD, you summon REDMD, umad?

Anyway, atm this deck has a lot of chances of drawing dead and often only has 1 to 2 combo turns. Then they'll run out of resources. whenever the opp can make a comeback you'll lose or have a really hard time.

Don't say: Comeback plays can be countered with card A and card B, you will not always have those cards. Even better, This Archetype doesn't have a lot of chances of drawing them as it has constant need of combo's. I know you'll be able to re-gain hand advantage but you'll draw in EP and not be able to set anything. You'd need cards like Veiler etc, and be able to draw them.
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Post  Phraxure on 2012-01-24, 12:30

No; and never will be.

3E-hero has mentioned all of the drawbacks of Hieroglyph.
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Post  Eliwood on 2012-01-24, 14:16

The archetype pretty much ignores and profits from all cards that require a tribute for a cost e.g. Advanced draw, the tyrant trap series (which are bad this format), enemy controller, infernal dragon, dragorado etc.

So... is the deck good/broken, maybe, probably yes when used right.

As broken as herp derp inzectors and wind-up loop?

no.

Although, I prefer them over both decks as I've finally found an archetype that I can abuse until the cards look like raw meat.
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Post  .Jobrjo. on 2012-01-24, 15:05

The newer the card, the better it is. That's a general rule. So as more Holy Carved Dragons cards come out, I'm expecting that to happen.
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Post  Eliwood on 2012-01-24, 15:13

.Jobrjo. wrote:The newer the card, the better it is. That's a general rule. So as more Holy Carved Dragons cards come out, I'm expecting that to happen.

Photons would like to have a word with you.
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Post  Miror B. on 2012-01-24, 16:28

LittleEagle wrote:Lightpulsar Dragon sucks...

Just because you can't abuse it anymore doesn't mean it sucks. It's a solid card.
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Post  Rockmeteor on 2012-02-15, 20:53

Rockmeteor wrote:It has quite potential, they have combos and are preety fast, but i agree about the dark hole thing 3E-hero neos and Badass_Bunny comment.
There is a new trap coming for them and i hope its effect negates other effects, because i like them and defense is their weakness.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Hieroglyph_Seal_of_Reflection
Oh my god. I am a foruneteller, and this card makes a large step for holy marked to the tier 1, if they reach. And dark hole is not such a threat anymore now that you can use redeyes and LPD in holy marked. Ive got a higher winning rate with holy mark, not wind-ups, inzektor or rabbit. This archtype require a lot of test to reach perfection, so it will take time to make a good deck, i took 3 hours dueling and 2 at deck construction to reach a good holy mark deck, but that good deck you just made can do 2 ftks in a row. Not hard to do this. I agree they are not as broken as hunter or dragonfly+hornet, but i think hunter and either hornet or dragonfly will be hit by the march banlist and holy marked wont. Almost sure of that.
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Post  3E-hero neos on 2012-02-16, 10:13

Holy Marked isn't broken because of the Counter Trap, it's a good card to support them and make them a bit better. But G-Knight doesn't top either and those guys can get their fusion materials and fusion card back all the time(when you have a proper build).

Btw, H-Marked isn't that hard to build, you need to know how to build them but I had them after like 4 duels already quite a strong deck.

H-Marked won't be the new Inzektor or WU, unless they get such tremendous Draw Power during the main phases instead of during the EP. They just run outta cards too easily, and if you cannot get the Counter Trap you're pretty much doomed very fast.
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Post  sagax06 on 2012-02-16, 18:41

I see holy marked being the new gb...not like the meta but interesting and can beat tier one decks. as for 3e- u got e controller and a few other shennaigans.IMO its not the draw power, its the xyz that they need.if more broke rank 6 and 8's come out they will be a serious threat lmao.
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Post  3E-hero neos on 2012-02-17, 12:11

We need a Rank 8 with an effect that says:
Once per turn you can Detach one Xyz material from this card, Dragon-type monsters you control are unaffected by your opponent's Trap cards until the end phase. If the Detached Xyz material was a Holy Marked monster, you can draw one card.

Or something along those lines xP.

Still a very strong and fun Archetype when played properly.
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Post  Phraxure on 2012-02-17, 12:22

Yeah that wouldn't be bad, but they just need some good draw power. They're very viable when it comes to XYZ, rank 5,6 or 8.
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Post  tester12342 on 2012-02-17, 12:47

I don't think draw power is something that Holy Marked needs, Even without Super Rejuvenation (I think it's a terrible card for the archetype), Trade-In and Advanced Draw will provide you with enough draw power to keep up with the meta, add in a pair of Maxx C's and you'll never have to worry about your hand ever again.

I think they just need more Xyz options, specially when it comes to Rank 8. As of right now their only options are Ennead and Thunder-End Dragon.

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Post  sagax06 on 2012-02-17, 17:58

3E-hero neos wrote:We need a Rank 8 with an effect that says:
Once per turn you can Detach one Xyz material from this card, Dragon-type monsters you control are unaffected by your opponent's Trap cards until the end phase. If the Detached Xyz material was a Holy Marked monster, you can draw one card.

Or something along those lines xP.

Still a very strong and fun Archetype when played properly.
thatd be fairly broke lmao.
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