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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 04:15

Black Luster Soldier wrote:I have created an application which will properly render any card back that meets the specifications given. Simply upload the PNG to imageshack and enter the URL into the program. The program will render the card back for you, colors and all.

In the competition, voters will use this tool to preview submitted card backs. Designers will submit their entries in the form of a single URL pointing to the PNG image.

Here is the application:
http://www.duelingnetwork.com/backpreview.exe

- BLS

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I recommend you look at Faotemaru's card back to understand how the layering should be done. His designs render very well.

It's time to get your sleeves that you made into play, specifically on duelingnetwotk. We're asking you to create sleeves based on the guidelines given to you below. Be aware this is just an announcement, the actual contest wont be for a while but we are giving you time to create many sleeves until the time comes. So create as many as you can and we will accept the 10 best ones when we boot up our contest. So in total you'll have 12 types of sleeves to customize! Sound neat right?

Guidelines:

Layer 1: Constant layer: Doesn't change
Layer 2: First Color
Layer 3: Second Color

Dimensions:
400x580 Will be per layer
400x1740 Should be the image added up

Requirements:
MUST be .PNG
3 layers

End result (our current one) :


Remember this contest wont be up right away, this is merely public service so you all have your sleeves made and ready. Wish you all good luck and hope to see some creativity!

Note: Dueling networks logo isn't required to be on the image but it's nice to include.

Thanks to the creator of the first image: Faotemaru

Edit by BLS:
Here is an image of the logo you may feel free to use:


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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-17, 11:43

Time to have another go at this! *boots up Paint.net*
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 12:53

Faotemaru wrote:Time to have another go at this! *boots up Paint.net*

We hope to see more from you, you do a good job.
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 13:16

We can use like card images and stuff right?

I'll give this a go I suppose. Can we have an exact date for when the contest will start?
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 13:21

There's no set date at the moment, I can say a couple weeks.
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-17, 14:10

Can you post the Constant layer in full size needed?
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Post  dredragon on 2011-08-17, 15:27

So we have to make ones that will change colour? I wanted to remake my fortune lady ones ones. :<

Anyway, atm this is what I have.














I know some of them are too blurry, I'ma fix them up later.

Hey Faotemaru, any tips on borders, seeing as you use the same program as me?
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-17, 15:51

... kinda already did mine. D}:
I recycled the border and the logo from the last back I made, and I used the tribal design I made who knows how long ago as the main design on it. Everything else is original.

high quality image showing everything as is in one color.
Animation showing all the pretty colors.

Everything needed in layers specified.
*Edited so the first layer is more prominent. Thank you for the preview application BLS!


<< >> <<


As for borders, I suggest a white outline and just mess with it a bit. Something bright does it pretty well, like White or warm colors. I suggest against cool colors as they tend to blend in with the background on DN as they tend to be dark (unless they're super saturated!)


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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 16:11





this is what I put together in a few hours. x:

how does color changing work? because I still need to incorporate the two color layers. there's the possibility of changing Shooting Star's color but that would only look good if it changed the hue.
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-17, 16:21

byak wrote:



this is what I put together in a few hours. x:

how does color changing work? because I still need to incorporate the two color layers. there's the possibility of changing Shooting Star's color but that would only look good if it changed the hue.

The two color layers completely change to the specified color, not just the hue. if you'll notice the first sleeve I made, there is a large spot of white in the middle of the blue layer, yet in DN it completely changes to whatever color is selected. To make Shoot Star Dragon's colors work properly, you would have to take the parts you want colors out of Mr. Shooting Star Dragon and put them in their own separate layer, and make Shooting Star Dragon himself colorless.

As for the border, there does need to be something other than solid white at the edges, else it will be a solid block of white rather than a stack of cards.
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 16:28

So like give the edge a texture or something? o:
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Post  Adept VantageSP on 2011-08-17, 16:31

I am currently making some sleeves/backs. They should be done pretty soon. That Shooting Star byak made is just awesome. Great work!

What font is the logo?


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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 16:33

vantagesp wrote:That Shooting Star Faotemaru made is just awesome. Great work!

wait wut
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Post  Adept VantageSP on 2011-08-17, 16:35

byak wrote:
vantagesp wrote:That Shooting Star Faotemaru made is just awesome. Great work!

wait wut
Sorry, wasn't paying attention. Anyway, great work they look REALLY good. I am jealous xd.
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 16:38

lol, it's k.

my only problem is the color layers thing. it's really bugging me since I can't really implement them onto sleeves like this. :\
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-17, 16:43

byak wrote:So like give the edge a texture or something? o:

Yes.

VantageSP wrote:What font is the logo?

Actually, the Logo can be found here: http://forum.duelingnetwork.com/t1759p25-card-back-idea#20444

I gave the Logo a sharp Black outline though so it could easily show up behind all the designs in front of it. It's up to you how you want to implement it.

Just remember anyone making sleeves: The two color changing layers must only have things that will change color. It won't just change hue! If you want something from the base of the card back to show up in front, you will have to cut out a spot of it in the two layers for it to show through.
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Post  daradun on 2011-08-17, 17:17

Wow the sleeves look amazing. I cant wait to see the rest of the competition. Keep up the good work Very Happy
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Post  Chaos340 on 2011-08-17, 17:48

dredragon wrote:So we have to make ones that will change colour? I wanted to remake my fortune lady ones ones. :<

Anyway, atm this is what I have.














I know some of them are too blurry, I'ma fix them up later.

Hey Faotemaru, any tips on borders, seeing as you use the same program as me?
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-17, 18:15

The Shooting Star one indeed does look awesome, perhaps you could split the background into two separate layers?
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Post  dredragon on 2011-08-17, 18:39

Yea, if you could make one layer with all the colour gone, and a layer for colour, that would be awesome! Best sleeve I've seen. Very Happy
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 18:52

idk how to do that though D:

also



I need moar ideas.

Planning on DaD, maybe JD/Honest, Chaos Sorc, Crimson Dragon markings, and signer dragons if I really want to Mad


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Post  dredragon on 2011-08-17, 19:10

That's awesome. o:
Like my Fortune ladies, I think some should just have one colour. Not everything has to be colour customizable. The Shooting Star looks like it could be changed easily, but it looks really nice the way it is. Very Happy
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 19:14

I think they might be better off with a fixed color, if that's okay with the DN staff. D:

also fixed SSD's border.
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 19:15

byak wrote:idk how to do that though D:

also



I need moar ideas.

Planning on DaD, maybe JD/Honest, Chaos Sorc, Crimson Dragon markings, and signer dragons if I really want to Mad

Black Luster Soldier: EotB
Shi En
Grapha
Dark Magician girl
Chaos emperor dragon: EotE
Dandylion
T.G: Any synchro
Time wizard!
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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 19:17

All of them seem doable except Shi En and Grapha, since I can't find HQ images.

also is the fixed color thing alright? O:
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Post  dredragon on 2011-08-17, 19:23

Do Dark Magician Girl of Chaos! Razz
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Post  Kaito on 2011-08-17, 19:39

Give me any critic you want :3 i want to get better xD, I made Armor Master because blackwing are my favorite cards.


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Post  byak on 2011-08-17, 19:56

I would like it more if Armor Master blended it with the background.

otherwise it looks nice, I think card art is the coolest to go with sleeves tbh.
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 20:09

Fixed color? It has to work as it would on DN where you can alter the colors, so layers 2, and 3 must be able to change colors without altering layer 1.
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Post  dredragon on 2011-08-17, 20:32

That's lame. Not everything needs to have multiple colours...
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-17, 21:15

Kaito wrote:Give me any critic you want :3 i want to get better xD, I made Armor Master because blackwing are my favorite cards.



The problem with this is that the blackwing will turn into one solid color rather than just changing the hue: it'll just be a completely solid color silhouette. To prevent this, you should probably place the blackwing monster on the back.
Once again, the border does need to have some sort of texture so that when the cards actually stack on one another ingame, it won't look like a solid blue block.
As is though, the only color customize-able part of the card would be the border after implementing these changes if you so choose. So, I would suggest you take parts of the background of the card and bring it forward in the second layer for that second mode of color customization. Be sure to leave a cut out for your blackwing to appear, else it'll just be in front of it and I'm sure people don't want that.


These same suggestions can go to other similar card backs as well: have the border have a transparent texture and place it on the last (bottom) layer, parts of the background in the second (middle) layer with a cut out of the design on the actual back in the first (top) layer.


Otherwise as is though, all these cards being suggested look great! I can't critique all that well (I'll be super nit-picky if I get into critic mode.), but I'll at least help with making the cards and spotting out errors.
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Post  Saki Tsuruza on 2011-08-17, 21:33

Blegh... Totally tried my best, but I don't think that it came out as well as I wanted it to. x_x;;




Oh, and even if Tinypic says they're jpegs, they're actually pngs
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-17, 22:00

The brio looks nice.
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Post  Dracerdis on 2011-08-17, 22:21

Here's one I really like! (Property of AxelShadowz, NOT MY WORK!!!)



I guess you could look at it this way: Border is customizable, background (greyish color now) is customizable, and you COULD go as far as to customize the monster (like Avi's; host contests every week or so?)
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Post  P4RTYxP01S0N on 2011-08-18, 00:14

Here's mine. Ill throw in more sometime. Tell me what you think



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Post  Kaito on 2011-08-18, 02:21

I can see many of you guys use Abstract brushes Razz xD the crystalishing ones XD

Here i have now changed after what some of guys have been asking.


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Post  Black Luster SoldierCOPY on 2011-08-18, 05:46

I have created an application which will properly render any card back that meets the specifications given. Simply upload the PNG to imageshack and enter the URL into the program. The program will render the card back for you, colors and all.

In the competition, voters will use this tool to preview submitted card backs. Designers will submit their entries in the form of a single URL pointing to the PNG image.

Here is the application:
http://www.duelingnetwork.com/backpreview.exe

- BLS

Note:
I recommend you look at Faotemaru's card back to understand how the layering should be done. His designs render very well.
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-18, 06:00

Pro Stuff is Pro....nice job
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Post  Phoenix on 2011-08-18, 06:01

wow, just wow^^
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Post  Kaito on 2011-08-18, 06:57

Nice done Chris Very Happy
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-18, 07:41

About the shooting star changing colors you can cut the white and non white parts of Shooting Star into two layers, then lower their opacity(and fill if needed) it should work with color only changing slightly.
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Post  Cyber Gyzarus on 2011-08-18, 08:13



What I've done yet.
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Post  daradun on 2011-08-18, 11:46

I suggest using some pics from http://yugiohstuff.tumblr.com/
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Post  Miley Syrus + on 2011-08-18, 13:12

Updated first post with BLS's post.
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-18, 13:20

Not many of you are really getting it how DN treats your cards when uploaded. I made this mini tutorial to explain the fundamental parts of it.


Look at this image and the two layers. The VERY TOP part of the image/layer will be the very back part of the card, the part that does not change at all. This is what you put your back-most design, your border, etc. As you can see, I used the one from my latest one.

The second, the one with the BLUE circle, is the second layer. This one will appear BELOW the layer under it, the one with the RED circle. So, it is as follows: Red Circle, Blue Circle, and then the back. That is how the ordering should be done.


However, let's look into something else. On the red and blue circle layers, you'll notice I did something different with both of them (and added borders, but that's just to show you what happens when you keep borders with no transparency on them.). On the Red Circle, I purposefully kept a part of the DN logo inside of it, and on the Blue circle, I left a cutout for the DN logo to appear from the backmost layer below it. What will happen if I put these images in the preview application?




The misconception everyone seems to have is that DN only changes the hue. THIS IS FALSE. It changes everything on that layer to that particular color. So the logo I placed on the Red circle got overwritten with a bunch of red, while the Blue circle with the cutout looks absolutely fine.
Also, look at the border. It was changed as well! And not only is it changed, the fact that it didn't have any sort of texture or anything at the edge makes it look like, well, a block of red with a picture on top. That doesn't look like a deck! To avoid this, either your border needs to have some transparent parts in it at the edges to show parts of the backmost part of the card if it's on a color changing layer, or it needs to be on the backmost part of the card to begin with, and have the designs that come before it leave a cut out for it to appear.
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-18, 13:29

Fotemaru that can be fixed(to some extent) by changing the layer opacity
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-18, 13:37

Badass_Bunny wrote:Faotemaru that can be fixed(to some extent) by changing the layer opacity

That's... not the point.

Alright, let's try that then. I made the Red circle a tad translucent.



And now I'll put it into the previewer.



Although the logo and parts of the back does show up, the logo does not show up crisp and clear, nor does anything else in the background. The way some people are assuming when they make these backs is that the layer behind the front or second layers WILL show up crisp and clear no matter what.



As an other example, I took Party Poison's very awesome Dark Magician Sleeve and resized it to fit the previewer.



aaaand then into the previewer.



Although this design can particularly work, I highly doubt this is what was envisioned it would look like when inputted into DN.
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Post  Badass_Bunny on 2011-08-18, 15:08





Granted I didn't do enough work on it(borders and little more adjusting to find the right opacity) but you see my point...some of those can actually work not every color will look great on it but most of them should
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Post  Faotemaru on 2011-08-18, 15:58

Oh, well, that changes things then. D:

That'd probably go very well for that Shooting Star Dragon card back too, then.
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Post  byak on 2011-08-18, 16:25

I'll get to work on it tomorrow, then.

Grandmaster of the Six Samurai
Chaos Sorcerer
Caius the Shadow Monarch
Dark Magician Girl
Dark Armed Dragon
Judgment Dragon
Honest
Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Effect Veiler
Master Hyperion
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Mark of the Crimson Dragon (like the sleeves you see in Japan with the 5d's logo)
Yugi + Slifer the Sky Dragon
Yugi + Dark Magician
Kaiba + Obelisk the Tormentor
Kaiba + Blue-Eyes White Dragon
Kaiba + Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon
Marik + The Winged Dragon of Ra
Jaden + Elemental Hero Neos
Yusei + Stardust Dragon

all are ideas :O
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