Rulings : Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

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Solved Rulings : Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning

Post  kangtuji on 2011-09-19, 19:59

So...

1) How many times a BLS can attack in one turn

2) Can you special summoned Dark Armed Dragon that has been properly summoned ? My opp claimed I cann't reborn BLS-EotB since it has similarlity with DaD according his/her rulings



And why BLS-EotB can be reborned, while DaD is not... question from my opp

Edit: Screenshoot link removed... because somehow its changes into adfly links


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Post  Key on 2011-09-19, 20:04

1. Twice, maximum
2. No, it's a nomi

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Post  kangtuji on 2011-09-19, 20:14

Oh thx for the answer...
I know the answer, It should be pretty clear, but I just cann't explain why... What a Face



For comparison
BLS-EotB wrote:This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing from play 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monster in your Graveyard. Once during each of your turns, you can select and activate 1 of the following effects:
● Select 1 monster on the field, and remove it from play. If you activate this effect, this card cannot attack during this turn.
● If this card destroyed your opponent's monster by battle, it can attack once again in a row.

DaD wrote:Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by having exactly 3 DARK monsters in your Graveyard and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. You can banish 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard to target 1 card on the field; destroy that target.

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Post  Kasei on 2011-09-19, 20:35

For reference.

Also yeah, you can activate BLS's effect once per turn so, he can attack once normally but if he destroys something he can attack again. If you destroy something after that then twice is his last time.

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Post  kangtuji on 2011-09-19, 20:37

no

Twice maximum, you cann't attack again for the 3'rd time even it destroy another monster or equipping with a card that enables your monster doing double attack

(Means BLS-EotB wont do Quadruple attack)

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Post  matt.dekok on 2011-09-19, 21:07

Black Luster Soldier says "can only be special summoned by" which means that after it has been properly summoned and later sent to the grave, you can revive it. This type of Monster is called a semi-nomi monster.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Summon-Only

The other type is nomi which says "cannot be special summoned except by". This type of monster cannot be revived from the graveyard through any effect. Dark Armed Dragon is a nomi monster. It's current text is an errata from its original text which used to say:

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 DARK monsters in your Graveyard. You can remove from play 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nomi

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Post  BlackwingRa on 2011-09-19, 21:25

This kind of card text for Semi-Nomi monster is the old kind. If BLS's card text is gonna be fixed, it should be like this: "Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from the hand)..."

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Post  Ruf_Pup13 on 2011-09-19, 23:52

Well...Like Blseotb says, It can Attack Once again in a row. So Im guessing two ties is the limit.

As for the special summon only. If it was summoned Properly the first time and wasnt Negated by Warining, Judgement, Horn Or any card of that sort.

You can Special summon him from the grave by Monster reborn, Call of the haunted, Etc. Because he was properly Summoned. As for D.A.D
He Just cant Be Special Summoned from the grave, Just from the hand.

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Post  matt.dekok on 2011-09-20, 00:49

BlackwingRa wrote:This kind of card text for Semi-Nomi monster is the old kind. If BLS's card text is gonna be fixed, it should be like this: "Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from the hand)..."

That text may hold for newer cards and reprints. But this text still holds for old semi-nomi monsters like BLS until they get reprinted.

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Post  Zero2Hero on 2011-09-21, 10:15

Solved by Key, Locked.

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Post  kangtuji on 2011-12-04, 22:32

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My opp claim he can attack after he use his banish effect, but I negate it with effect veiler

Does it true ?

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Post  BlackwingRa on 2011-12-04, 22:43

The answer is no, the effect has already been activated, it just resolves without effect because the effect is negated. So BLS cannot attack.

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